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Nrl 2012
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I actually agree with both of you Poita and LG. that's why I'm surprised. I'm not a fan of either of the Johns brothers tbh.
Glad to see the other QLD team get up.
Just too good for the dogs.
Dogs will be a real threat next year.
Absolutely disgusting that Goey Johns has became an Immortal. In his case he should be called immoral
Time the NRL did something of their own and get rid of all the wankers from the Sydney papers who have been blowing smoke up Goeys Johns arse for his whole career.
FFS Alan Langer has better statistics as does Geoff Toovey.
In fact Goey couldn't even get a starting gig in the national side till Langer retired.
He always came off the bench. Even in the Origin they picked him at hooker because he wasn't good enough to be the first choice halfback
Is it any wonder how he changed the way a half back played. When you're full of speed you're ten foot tall and bullet proof. Every thing happens in slow motion and it makes you stronger.
He's a self confessed drug cheat that played while under the influence of a performance enhacing drug.
His performances should have suffered the same fate as the Storm with the salary cap
He's a ****ing cheat and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as the other Immortals.
CH9 want a rocket up their arse for even having that clown on their programs
Just too good for the dogs.
Dogs will be a real threat next year.
Absolutely disgusting that Goey Johns has became an Immortal. In his case he should be called immoral
Time the NRL did something of their own and get rid of all the wankers from the Sydney papers who have been blowing smoke up Goeys Johns arse for his whole career.
FFS Alan Langer has better statistics as does Geoff Toovey.
In fact Goey couldn't even get a starting gig in the national side till Langer retired.
He always came off the bench. Even in the Origin they picked him at hooker because he wasn't good enough to be the first choice halfback
Is it any wonder how he changed the way a half back played. When you're full of speed you're ten foot tall and bullet proof. Every thing happens in slow motion and it makes you stronger.
He's a self confessed drug cheat that played while under the influence of a performance enhacing drug.
His performances should have suffered the same fate as the Storm with the salary cap
He's a ****ing cheat and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as the other Immortals.
CH9 want a rocket up their arse for even having that clown on their programs
Totally agree Col,
FFS, the NSWRL are so desperate to have only Blues winning at everything they have pulled the Druggo out of the next generation because they know he couldn't hold a candle to some of the players he went up against, Darren Lockyer for example.
Any of those Col just mentioned should have been in before druggo, but for me it's Meninga, who has actually given back and acheived so much off the field not just blabbed on radio and TV about how hopeless all of today's players are.
What is more sanctimonious though is this drugged up phuck carping on about how the penalties handed to the Storm for the salary cap breaches was to little. what a cork soaker.[jk]
FFS, the NSWRL are so desperate to have only Blues winning at everything they have pulled the Druggo out of the next generation because they know he couldn't hold a candle to some of the players he went up against, Darren Lockyer for example.
Any of those Col just mentioned should have been in before druggo, but for me it's Meninga, who has actually given back and acheived so much off the field not just blabbed on radio and TV about how hopeless all of today's players are.
What is more sanctimonious though is this drugged up phuck carping on about how the penalties handed to the Storm for the salary cap breaches was to little. what a cork soaker.[jk]
Gasnier & Raper said it themselves........ if they were subject to the same sort of media scrutiny as a modern player you'd probably all think they were bad role models, too...
It's about the footy and Joey is the best there has ever been. I've heard a few people say they think Wally is the best ever, and im happy to accept that too, but the reality is.... when Andrew Johns' name comes up against these other blokes there's just no competition..... you're talking about great players vs the best player....
It's not a ****ing popularity contest. If anything, the sorts of drugs Joey's been accused of taking would make it HARDER to perform, not give him an advantage.
Mal can have his turn next time, and the other blokes have already missed the boat.
It's not about being fair or just giving to someone because he's getting old and you wanna be nice to him.... it's about giving the best players of all time the title of 'Immortal'..
Im just gob smacked at some peoples attitude.......
did you actually see Andrew Johns play footy? See him tackle? see him kick the ball? see him run at the line? see him pass?
He was the best. End of.
It's about the footy and Joey is the best there has ever been. I've heard a few people say they think Wally is the best ever, and im happy to accept that too, but the reality is.... when Andrew Johns' name comes up against these other blokes there's just no competition..... you're talking about great players vs the best player....
It's not a ****ing popularity contest. If anything, the sorts of drugs Joey's been accused of taking would make it HARDER to perform, not give him an advantage.
Mal can have his turn next time, and the other blokes have already missed the boat.
It's not about being fair or just giving to someone because he's getting old and you wanna be nice to him.... it's about giving the best players of all time the title of 'Immortal'..
Im just gob smacked at some peoples attitude.......
did you actually see Andrew Johns play footy? See him tackle? see him kick the ball? see him run at the line? see him pass?
He was the best. End of.
Assisted by Speed. Speed is a performance enhancer.
It doesn't make you dance better like those ****tards from the Daily Telecrap think.
It makes you fasteer and stronger.
Spouse thats why the little runt could stop forwards in their tracks that were 30 kilos heavier than him
It doesn't make you dance better like those ****tards from the Daily Telecrap think.
It makes you fasteer and stronger.
Spouse thats why the little runt could stop forwards in their tracks that were 30 kilos heavier than him
Joey was drug tested just like everyone else during his career and was never found to be a cheat... yes, he admitted to taking drugs, but insisted that it was almost always out of season and on the few occasions he did do it during the season, it was generally during post match celebrations and by the time next week's game came around it was well and truly out of his system. That's what it says in his book, that's what it said in the papers at the time... and i pretty certain nobody 'in the know' disputes that fact.
I certainly dont think he'd ever consciously take speed to improve his performance on the pitch.
I certainly dont think he'd ever consciously take speed to improve his performance on the pitch.
Who gives a shit whether he was tested and not caught or when he took them, the fact is he was doing drugs in the first place Fullstop.
Funny how he couldn't make the Australian side until Langer retired no matter how good his supporters think he was.
Doesn't deserve the accolade of being an Immortal.. Enough said.
Funny how he couldn't make the Australian side until Langer retired no matter how good his supporters think he was.
Doesn't deserve the accolade of being an Immortal.. Enough said.
All the living immortals got a vote, you know... along with Wayne Bennett, Ray Warren, Roy Masters....
you claiming to know more about the game than those lot?
When it comes down to it, you just have to ask yourself..... if a game was on the line, who would you want to chuck the ball to? Mal Meninga? Norm Proven? Ron Coote? No bloody way... you'd give the ball to Joey every single time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF6wpyu4Vq4
Watch it back mate..... almost always in the off season... only a couple of times during the season... always after a game... never before.
Mitchell, I wouldn't waste your time or energy any more than you have. You will never convince a QLD'r that there might be anyone other than another QLD'r that is any good. It is a built in base setting in their brains.
Anyone who has any sort of knowledge in drugs and their effects will tell you that speed will not act as a performance enhancer, if anything it will work the opposite. What do they give people with ADHD? Rhittolin. And what is it mainly? SPEED. Now I don't think Dr's are going to prescribe to people that think they are 10 foot tall and bullet proof, something that is going to make them 10 foot tall and bullet proof, are they? I think, Col, you have your drugs mixed up, others like ICE definitely do that.
The selection process for being an Immortal is for ON FIELD PERFORMANCES ONLY.
Speed would not have made Johns play better, the opposite. YES Andrew Johns is a first class COCK, living in Newcastle, I know first hand what he used to get up to, but you cannot take away the fact that he was probably the greatest footballer of the modern era. I say modern era because I don't think comparisons between, say himself and Clive Churchill are fair, different times, different rules etc.
End of rant!
By the way, just because I live in Newcastle, doesn't mean I'm a Newcastle supporter, I'm way worse than that. GO YOU ROOSTERS![crackup]
Anyone who has any sort of knowledge in drugs and their effects will tell you that speed will not act as a performance enhancer, if anything it will work the opposite. What do they give people with ADHD? Rhittolin. And what is it mainly? SPEED. Now I don't think Dr's are going to prescribe to people that think they are 10 foot tall and bullet proof, something that is going to make them 10 foot tall and bullet proof, are they? I think, Col, you have your drugs mixed up, others like ICE definitely do that.
The selection process for being an Immortal is for ON FIELD PERFORMANCES ONLY.
Speed would not have made Johns play better, the opposite. YES Andrew Johns is a first class COCK, living in Newcastle, I know first hand what he used to get up to, but you cannot take away the fact that he was probably the greatest footballer of the modern era. I say modern era because I don't think comparisons between, say himself and Clive Churchill are fair, different times, different rules etc.
End of rant!
By the way, just because I live in Newcastle, doesn't mean I'm a Newcastle supporter, I'm way worse than that. GO YOU ROOSTERS![crackup]
Greatest player in modern era my arse.
Thats why he couldn't even get the in run on half back role why Langer was still playing.
FFS they even had him playing at hooker for awhile so he could get in the run on side.
Both Langer and Toovey have better records. Mortimer probably has as well
But with this sham that has become the Immortals you NSWelshman can keep crying over being a bunch of losers for the last 7 years and finally celebrate Goey Johns being named.
What a piece of sh!t. Here you go kids get stoned and cheat and become an immoral
Thats why he couldn't even get the in run on half back role why Langer was still playing.
FFS they even had him playing at hooker for awhile so he could get in the run on side.
Both Langer and Toovey have better records. Mortimer probably has as well
But with this sham that has become the Immortals you NSWelshman can keep crying over being a bunch of losers for the last 7 years and finally celebrate Goey Johns being named.
What a piece of sh!t. Here you go kids get stoned and cheat and become an immoral
So another words you along with all those you mentioned support and condone taking Illegal drugs whilst playing sport.
Great role model for kids hey.
And no where did i say Johns was NOT a good player.
Look, I honestly don't think anyone here is condoning the use of illegal drugs, or the fact that it was such a high profile player that admitted to doing what he did. BUT, the facts are that he has been judged and awarded for his ON FIELD PERFORMANCES and nothing else. There is a reason why the judging criteria is for on field performances only, and that is because there wouldn't be any immortals if they were judged on anything else due to the skeletons in the closets of most of the greatest players, past and present, footy players were never meant to be saints.
Mal definitely deserves to be made an Immortal, I honestly thought he would have been made one before Johns, to tell you the truth, I thought Ron Coote would have been made one before Mal, but thats the way the cookie crumbles. You know what? There are much more important things we all need to worry about in this world than bloody football, like DJR getting back up the front of the field and ending this fu**ing dismal period of piss poor performance.
I dont condone it, but as a young man from a similar background i can certainly understand how easy it is to get to that point.... and i don't think it instantly makes someone a bad person, just a dumb one...
also, having watched that interview back, people don't seem very willing to talk about the fact that he was diagnosed as clinically depressed for 7 of the 10 years that he admitted to taking drugs. I thought we were supposed to be supportive of that type of stuff now-days? Beyond blue and all that...
In my mind, what all those Melbourne players did, knowingly cheating the league, or what James Graham did on the weekend, consciously biting someone on the f@#king ear...... that is far worse than going out after a victory with your team mates and popping a pill.
Do you honestly think that none of those old blokes like Raper and Gasnier and Beetson never did anything they'd be ashamed of? They just never got aught.
anyway... i know I'm not gonna change your minds..... but everytime i come on here you Queenslanders are spouting off some rubbish so i just like to put you in your place...... or at least try to
I laugh at how people condemn the Storm but say nothing about the Dogs systymatically cheating the cap as well
All teams end up cheating the cap at times.
The Johns famliy have something to be proud of.
One son likes gang bangs and the other is a cheating druggie
NSW have blown so much smoke up these losers arses that they now have very high profile jobs with CH9 and MMM
All teams end up cheating the cap at times.
The Johns famliy have something to be proud of.
One son likes gang bangs and the other is a cheating druggie
NSW have blown so much smoke up these losers arses that they now have very high profile jobs with CH9 and MMM
Trust me, i dislike the dogs immensely... but the difference between the dogs and the Storm this year is that there isn't a single person left at Canterbury from those days... not a player, not a board member, not a coach..... it's a totally new club...
Melbourne however, still have all those top earners, including the coach, and no one seems to care.... it really pains me how Channel 9 kept referring to Melbourne's achievement of '4 Grand Finals in 5 seasons' or whatever it is........ i'm sorry..... they've been in 1. The other ones dont count for anything.
If you're Cooper Cronk and you're on about 600k a year, and you know the cap is about $4million, and you know there are blokes like Inglis, Slater, Smith who are all getting more than you are..... you cant tell me that these blokes didn't know what was going on. 2/3 of the cap accounts for 4 players [im sure they could have worked that out themselves].... so then there's about 1 million left to pay the 20-odd other blokes... [jk]
I know it's tough to admit, and they are all undoubtedly great players.... but they are cheats. What they did is far worse than what Joey did. He never tried to give himself an advantage on the park and cheat his colleagues out of a win... but your beloved 'Big Three' most certainly did.
and you can speculate all you like about everyone else doing it, but that's all it is..... speculation.
More half truths.
The Dogs lost all points for the season and KEPT the same ****ing team on the paddock the next year and won the comp.
Whats your ****ing problem. They're under the salary cap and thats all that matters
Time you blokes realised that people from outside of Sydney can play.
Mind you it's been 7 long years since you last won an origin series and you still haven't worked it out [crackup][crackup][crackup][crackup]
NSWelshmen make me laugh.
With all the garbage written in the Telecrap that you lot swallow.
All you do is make the likes of the Storm stronger. You've now created a buzz in Melbourne. Great for the storm because it has people talking and watching.
The same way QLD uses all the vile garbage that the likes of Butt Rothfield and Paul Kent (his name is spelt wrong. the first two letters are wrong) dish up.
Get used to it. Sydneys grip on being epicentre of league is slipping.
Lets get another side up here. At least we support our teams and it'll mean even more youngsters being eligible to keep kicking the Bloosers arse
The Dogs lost all points for the season and KEPT the same ****ing team on the paddock the next year and won the comp.
Whats your ****ing problem. They're under the salary cap and thats all that matters
Time you blokes realised that people from outside of Sydney can play.
Mind you it's been 7 long years since you last won an origin series and you still haven't worked it out [crackup][crackup][crackup][crackup]
NSWelshmen make me laugh.
With all the garbage written in the Telecrap that you lot swallow.
All you do is make the likes of the Storm stronger. You've now created a buzz in Melbourne. Great for the storm because it has people talking and watching.
The same way QLD uses all the vile garbage that the likes of Butt Rothfield and Paul Kent (his name is spelt wrong. the first two letters are wrong) dish up.
Get used to it. Sydneys grip on being epicentre of league is slipping.
Lets get another side up here. At least we support our teams and it'll mean even more youngsters being eligible to keep kicking the Bloosers arse